3 thoughts on “Discovery Nastiness – all the A’s!

  1. Andy Swiffin

    To be fair to the overstretched people who have had to deploy the software I could ask “where is the clear guidance and documentation on how and what to do”? On the UK Federation website? I couldn’t find any. On the main Shibboleth 2 documentation site? Well there is IdPAuthUserPassLoginPage but I had to google “shibboleth 2 login.jsp” to find it, and its more a reference manual than a cookbook. The initial advice there is clearly intended for people with lots of time on their hands: “The login page is a JavaServer Pages (JSP) and before attempting to edit the page you should be familiar with at least to basics of JSPs. Go out to the web and read a few tutorials (e.g. one, two, three).”

    I can’t find any documentation that clearly says “Now you have deployed your IdP follow these _simple_ steps to produce a “uk federation standard set of login pages customised for your institution”. Of course those who do have lots of time on their hands or already have the necessary jsp skills can be as creative as they like but judging by the findings with the “A”s you’ll probably find most people do it as per the forthcoming documentation…

    My 2groats worth
    Andy

  2. Jethro R Binks

    I generally agree with Andy, in that guidance appears to be scattered or non-existent, and in many organisations where the trial of installing, testing and getting the software working is a major endeavour, thinking about branding probably came way down the list (if not forgotten as they move on to the next project in the queue).

    Perhaps these people who stare at login pages for most of everyday and are sensitive to these issues need to provide some clear “Dos” and “Don’ts” of branding. Links to (images of) the good and bad pages would be useful to, so we can see exactly what Nicole is referring to.

    That said, it’s a good exercise and post, if the outcome is an easy checklist of branding tips.

  3. Nicole Harris

    Good point well made Andy 🙂 See my next post and I will try and summarise what we have learnt from the WAYF redesign process. One thing I will note is that we really don’t want there to be a ‘standard UK federation login page’. We don’t want the user to even be vaguely aware of the federation, we want you to use your standard, local, institutional login page. So for example KCL have obviously thought about the login page here: https://mykcl.kcl.ac.uk/urd/sits.urd/run/siw_lgn but then have produced this for shibbolised login: https://kclidp.kcl.ac.uk/idp/Authn/UserPassword. Why??

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